[Breakingthesilence] a bout kev's proposals and about the questionnaire

ni co lu nicolu at chutelibre.org
Sam 3 Avr 14:49:37 CEST 2004


ola !

1) about kev's messages, as I said there was a need and demand from people
involved with the belgrade preparation process that those who are involved
with anti-patriarchal projects send textes on the pga process list so that
other people can get a better picture and understanding of what we mean by
gender issue, antipatriarchy and also about what single-spaces can bring to
those struggles and struggles of oppressed people in general..

One of the few positive things resulting from the october meeting blockage
was that it was said a debate was needed on the pga-process-list (which
unfortunately didn't happen but really should before the april meeting)

So I think that, as it might be one of the good way to make thoughts and
problems evolve we have to propose contents, theories and thoughts.

So I think we can discuss texts ( the one kevin proposed and hopefully
others) on this breakingthesilence list but that we should also really send
quicly texts on the process list before the april meeting (knowing it's the
last preparatory meeting as far as I know and that if gender issues are
still not taken more into account than that and single spaces still blocked,
I can assume that people including me will just quit the conference process)
and not be too afraid of filling people's email box (there's not so much
going on this list and on the process list and once again people asked for
it).

It also think it would be really good if these texts come and are sent by
various people, just to show that it's not only three people who think it's
important issues.

2) about the questionnaire inga called me yesterday has she didn't have time
to send an e-mail and asked for a reformulation of the question 9.
So i'm goig to try if I understood well what she meant before we send it to
the process list.
That might a really bad english with not reall accurate words so correct me...

9)
a) what do you think/feel about people/groups/classes taking times
and spaces to meet specifically between themselves as a tool to fight against
domination/oppression from others. (as women only
discussions/working/support groups/spaces but the same question could go for
immigrants / people of color in a white racist society / working class
people in a capitalist society/ disabled people /
gays and lesbians...) ?

b) what do you think about men taking specific times and spaces to meet between
themselves as a tool for them to think and act about the way they can
dominate women and try work about (against) oppressive masculine behaviours
and their own gender constructions.

Ok, I think inga meant changing this question or making it more precise in
this kind of way.
? Look outside it's sunny!!! 
kevin at eyfa.org disait : > dear pga gender working group posse, > > my name
is kev, i live and work in escanda (www.escanda.org - but there > will be a
much funkier version of the website up in the next few days) > and one of
the projects that i am currently involved in is a spanish > magazine called
el pimiento verde (www.moviments.net/pimientoverde) which > is sort of a
spanish version of the greenpepper magazine > (www.greenpeppermagazine.org).
> > each issue has a different theme, and the next PV is on gender, and i am
> in the process of collecting/editing/translating texts on the subject. > 
> If people are interested or think it is worthwhile, and if they are not >
scared of their inboxes being too full-up, i can send some of the texts >
that i am using or inspired by to this list for people to have a look at. > 
> Also, I would like to tentatively (ie not 100% but i quite like the sound
> of the idea and I am a bit worried about my workload but its the sort of >
project that I would enjoy doing and I need to think a bit more before i >
really sign my name on the dotted line) commit to being able to put >
together some sort of gender publiction for the PGA meeting in belgrade. I >
can do simple (nothing too ultra-hip) layout, and i have collected a load >
of images and i can probably recycle somethigns from the pimiento >
verde.... > I don't have access to money to print such a publication......
We would > have to come up with some other ideas for that, and the pimeinto
verde, > unfortunately, is very very low on money. > > also, maybe it would
make more sense to print it in belgrade, as i am not > sure how i would be
able to get them there.... there are definiteyl people > going from escanda,
but i am not sure how many publications there would be > or how bulky they
would be to carry. > > does nayone have any good contacxts with any org.s
like mamacash in > amsterdam that have solidairty funds for projects/travel
etc related to > gender? > > ok, this is all just ideas - this is what i
have to contribute, and i > welcome more suggestions and whatever on top of
this, and i hope to > collaborate with some or all of the people on this
list towards the goal > of putting some sort of publication together. > >
just to give people an idea, I am attaching on to this email the update so >
far of the pimiento verde with a list of articles (the file has a spanish >
title but the content is in english) to give people an idea of the sort of >
angles that i am coming from. > > cheers now > kev > > (ps please if you
have more ideas suggestions for the pimiento verde, > especially
things/people/projects in spanish, then let me know too) > > > hello. > >
okay, let's initiate this list. we are 17 subscribers. we are > > somehow
the gender working group to prepare this issue for the next > > european pga
conference. there are only three persons who > > participated to the dijon's
wintermeeting (from this meeting came > > some concret proposals, you can
found them on the web site: > >
http://www.nadir.org/nadir/initiativ/agp/free/dijon/gender.htm ), > > the
others disappeared... since the belgrade's preparation meeting > > in
october where two proposals were blocked (to have one gender-day > > and to
have women and men and if wanted other 'non-mixed' spaces) > > there
happened not so much about it. the proposals should be > > reformulated and
explained again by the 'gender working group'. we > > tried to contact the
people who were interested after the dijon's > > meeting and created this
mailinglist. but to be honest, this is the > > first mail on it... so far as
we understood, this issue was not > > discussed in the january meeting
neither. until now this famous > > gender working group didn't really exist,
and the question is what > > to do now. we feel really uncomfortable with
this 'blocking > > situation', especially as it seems not resolvable (?) on
local > > belgrade level. (since the october meeting discussions on this
issue > > have always been violent and some people left dsm). we don't know
> > really how to act if people will maintain the block. in the worst > >
case we can accept that people are not interested in gender issue > > but we
can not accept that they block concret proposals. this is > > even in the
opposite with our idea of pga basis organizing. we see > > it both - the
gender day and women etc. spaces blocking - as a > > problem, but since it
might be a big difficulty to arrange the whole > > day on gender with local
people, we think it's not worth that work, > > we are probably not enough
people and we have not enough time to > > work really on a concept (the idea
about this gender day was to make > > sure that people will not have to
choose between this and other > > topics, to show that we consider it as a
really important issue, but > > it shouldn't look like a special event and
after we can go back to > > the 'normal' program). we would much more like
to work on contacts > > and content and have as many gender issue workshops
as possible > > during the whole conference. still, we feel it's very
important to > > work on having non-mixed spaces. > > we would like to know
what you are thinking about this and what kind > > of involvement you are
willing to take (it makes no sense to focus > > on gender if there are not
enough people working on it). > > > > beside this important points to be
discussed, here is a list of > > concrete things to work on: > > > > -
realize a questionnary to be sent with the application form (see > > dijon
report) and think about how to use the answers in an > > interesting way...
> > > > - leaflet for the conference opening, layout, print > > > > -
specific gender contact work to invite groups to propose workshops > >
and/or present their work. can we imagine to write a specific short > > call
that could be added to the general call or sent as a special > > call ? > >
> > - collecting texts for a gender-reader, organizing layout and > >
printing. translation? > > > > > > for the moment we are just listing this
projects. before to take > > responsabilities for some tasks, we would like
to have discussion. > > it seems important to us to have it before the
april's meeting. and > > maybe we should send the outcome of our discussion
(our concerns and > > concrete proposals??) to the process list. both of us
we won't be at > > the next meeting. is there anyone here who will come to
belgrade? > > > > please take the time to think about all this and share it!
> > take care! > > > > bosa (belgrade) and inga (grenoble, sans titre
network) > > > > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > >
Breakingthesilence mailing list > > Breakingthesilence at gendertrouble.org > >
http://gendertrouble.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/breakingthesilence > >

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> \pard\plain \ltrpar\s15\qc \li0\ri0\widctlpar\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0 \rtlch\ab\af0\afs24\langfe1025\cgrid\langnp2057\langfenp1033 \ltrch\b\fs24\lang2057\langfe1033\cgrid\langnp2057\langfenp1033 {\rtlch \af0 \ltrch G\'e9
> nero Pimiento Verde Overview April 24th
> \par }\pard\plain \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0 \rtlch\af0\afs24\langfe1025\cgrid\langnp2057\langfenp1033 \ltrch\fs24\lang2057\langfe1033\cgrid\langnp2057\langfenp1033 {\rtlch \af0 \ltrch 
> \par 
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> \ltrch Section 1: Construction of Gender Identities In Society
> \par }\pard\plain \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0 \rtlch\af0\afs24\langfe1025\cgrid\langnp2057\langfenp1033 \ltrch\fs24\lang2057\langfe1033\cgrid\langnp2057\langfenp1033 {\rtlch \af0 \ltrch 
> \par {\listtext\pard\plain\ltrpar\rtlch\af0\langnp2057 \ltrch\f3\lang2057\langfe1033\langnp2057 \'b7\tab}}\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-360\li720\ri0\widctlpar\jclisttab\tx720\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\ls2\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0 {\rtlch \af0 \ltrch \'93Male\'94
>  gender roles
> \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\widctlpar\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0 {\rtlch \af0 \ltrch 
> \par {\listtext\pard\plain\ltrpar\rtlch\af0\langnp2057 \ltrch\lang2057\langfe1033\langnp2057 1)\tab}}\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-360\li720\ri0\sl480\slmult1\widctlpar\jclisttab\tx720\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\ls1\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0 {\rtlch \af0 \ltrch 
> Article on how masculinity gender identity causes problems and oppression for men \endash  despite being the oppressor in patriarchal systems
> , masculinity beings many problems to men also, and it is very much in the interests of men as well as women to bring down the gender divisions.  Pedro from CMD has a friend in Barna who has written a book on this subject, and he is approaching her to wri
> te an article on this.
> \par {\listtext\pard\plain\ltrpar\rtlch\af0\langnp2057 \ltrch\lang2057\langfe1033\langnp2057 2)\tab}
> Masculinities, violence and peacemaking. This article (being translated) examines how men predominate across the spectrum of violence (from war, to domestic violence, to \'93corporate\'94 violence, to violent sports), and examines how a str
> ategy for peace must concern itself with this fact, the reasons for it, and its implications for work to reduce violence .
> \par {\listtext\pard\plain\ltrpar\rtlch\af0\langnp2057 \ltrch\lang2057\langfe1033\langnp2057 3)\tab}Practical examples/experience of \'93Masculinity\'94 work. This is being written by a guy in Madrid who is doing workshops on this theme. 
> \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\sl480\slmult1\widctlpar\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0 {\rtlch \af0 \ltrch 
> \par {\listtext\pard\plain\ltrpar\rtlch\af0\langnp2057 \ltrch\f3\lang2057\langfe1033\langnp2057 \'b7\tab}}\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-360\li1440\ri0\sl480\slmult1\widctlpar\jclisttab\tx1440\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\ls1\ilvl1\adjustright\rin0\lin1440\itap0 {\rtlch \af0 
> \ltrch \'93Female gender roles\'94
> \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\sl480\slmult1\widctlpar\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0 {\rtlch \af0 \ltrch Ooops, there isn\rquote 
> t really anything for this so far. I am not really sure what to include, and really need some good suggestions. I would really like this to be more specifically relevant to Spanish society.
> \par 
> \par {\listtext\pard\plain\ltrpar\rtlch\af0\langnp2057 \ltrch\f3\lang2057\langfe1033\langnp2057 \'b7\tab}}\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-360\li720\ri0\sl480\slmult1\widctlpar\jclisttab\tx720\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\ls3\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0 {\rtlch \af0 \ltrch 
> Interplay of \'93male\'94 and \'93female\'94 gender roles
> \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\sl480\slmult1\widctlpar\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0 {\rtlch \af0 \ltrch I think that there should be something on how these interact with each other, but I am not quite sure what or how.
> \par {\listtext\pard\plain\ltrpar\rtlch\af0\langnp2057 \ltrch\f3\lang2057\langfe1033\langnp2057 \'b7\tab}}\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-360\li720\ri0\sl480\slmult1\widctlpar\jclisttab\tx720\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\ls3\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0 {\rtlch \af0 \ltrch 
> Queer theory \endash  there is nothing so far on this\'85. Does anyone have any good ideas for things in spanish on this?
> \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\sl480\slmult1\widctlpar\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0 {\rtlch \af0 \ltrch 
> \par }\pard\plain \ltrpar\s1\ql \li0\ri0\sl480\slmult1\keepn\widctlpar\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\outlinelevel0\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0 \rtlch\ab\af0\afs24\langfe1025\cgrid\langnp2057\langfenp1033 \ltrch
> \b\fs24\lang2057\langfe1033\cgrid\langnp2057\langfenp1033 {\rtlch \af0 \ltrch Section 2 \endash  Gender issues in \'93alternative\'94 spaces
> \par {\listtext\pard\plain\ltrpar\rtlch\af0\langnp2057 \ltrch\f3\lang2057\langfe1033\langnp2057 \'b7\tab}}\pard\plain \ltrpar\ql \fi-360\li720\ri0\sl480\slmult1\widctlpar\jclisttab\tx720\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\ls3\adjustright\rin0\lin720\itap0 \rtlch
> \af0\afs24\langfe1025\cgrid\langnp2057\langfenp1033 \ltrch\fs24\lang2057\langfe1033\cgrid\langnp2057\langfenp1033 {\rtlch \af0 \ltrch Women and technology \endash  experiences of women in dealing with IMC collectives, Hacklabs etc. Being written by Ana
> 
> \par {\listtext\pard\plain\ltrpar\rtlch\af0\langnp2057 \ltrch\f3\lang2057\langfe1033\langnp2057 \'b7\tab}Action plan for dealing with instances of sexual harassment/rape/violence in alternative spaces that came out of the Escanda gender seminar \endash 
>  is written, needs editing
> \par {\listtext\pard\plain\ltrpar\rtlch\af0\langnp2057 \ltrch\f3\lang2057\langfe1033\langnp2057 \'b7\tab}12 tips for white guys who are working for social change.
> \par {\listtext\pard\plain\ltrpar\rtlch\af0\langnp2057 \ltrch\f3\lang2057\langfe1033\langnp2057 \'b7\tab}There is a really great article by Chris Crass called \'93How can I be sexist when I am an anarchist\'94 which is quite a personal accoun
> t of a man developing a consciousness of the patriarchy inside him and around him, and the unconscious oppression being carried out by men in activist spaces. It is a bit too long and in English, but if need be I will edit
>  it down and have it translated, but I would much rather have something equivalent and originally in Spanish.
> \par {\listtext\pard\plain\ltrpar\rtlch\af0\langnp2057 \ltrch\f3\lang2057\langfe1033\langnp2057 \'b7\tab}\'93A feminist for all seasons\'94 \endash 
>  a piece that takes the form of a questionnaire from a womens magazine, with multiple choice questions that determine whether your brand of feminism matches your eye-shadow. At the end it makes the point that the questions are 
> all based on stereo-types of feminism and that people shouldn\rquote t be forced into conforming into these patriarchal stereo-types. This doesn\rquote 
> t necessarily fit into any of the sections, and could just go in as an autonomous piece. It is very funny and creative and makes a good point in an engaging, interactive way.
> \par {\listtext\pard\plain\ltrpar\rtlch\af0\langnp2057 \ltrch\f3\lang2057\langfe1033\langnp2057 \'b7\tab}Would like more experiences, testimonies, angles on this from people in the Spanish State
> \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\sl480\slmult1\widctlpar\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0 {\rtlch \af0 \ltrch 
> \par }{\rtlch \ab\af0 \ltrch \b Section 3 : Women in global struggles}{\rtlch \af0 \ltrch 
> \par Given that the majority of documentation of global struggle is by men and about men, this section is a slightly tokenistic attempt to redress the balance and include more testimony from women involved in global struggles.
> \par {\listtext\pard\plain\ltrpar\rtlch\af0\langnp2057 \ltrch\f3\lang2057\langfe1033\langnp2057 \'b7\tab}}\pard \ltrpar\ql \fi-360\li854\ri0\sl480\slmult1\widctlpar\jclisttab\tx854\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\ls4\adjustright\rin0\lin854\itap0 {\rtlch \af0 \ltrch 
> Interview with woman from \'93Mujeres creando,\'94 an anarcho-feminist collective in Bolivia.
> \par {\listtext\pard\plain\ltrpar\rtlch\af0\langnp2057 \ltrch\f3\lang2057\langfe1033\langnp2057 \'b7\tab}Interview with ex-nun from Brazil who is part of a group of autonomous, land-squatting rural ecologists.
> \par {\listtext\pard\plain\ltrpar\rtlch\af0\langnp2057 \ltrch\f3\lang2057\langfe1033\langnp2057 \'b7\tab}
> Interview with woman from aboriginal community in Coober Pedy in Australia (in the middle of nowhere) currently fighting against Uranium dump being constructed on aboriginal land.
> \par {\listtext\pard\plain\ltrpar\rtlch\af0\langnp2057 \ltrch\f3\lang2057\langfe1033\langnp2057 \'b7\tab}Any other good ideas for good things we should be including in this section?
> \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\sl480\slmult1\widctlpar\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0 {\rtlch \af0 \ltrch 
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> \b\fs24\lang2057\langfe1033\cgrid\langnp2057\langfenp1033 {\rtlch \af0 \ltrch Section 4 \endash  Gender based violence
> \par {\listtext\pard\plain\ltrpar\rtlch\af0\langnp2057 \ltrch\f3\lang2057\langfe1033\langnp2057 \'b7\tab}}\pard\plain \ltrpar\ql \fi-360\li854\ri0\sl480\slmult1\widctlpar\jclisttab\tx854\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\ls5\adjustright\rin0\lin854\itap0 \rtlch
> \af0\afs24\langfe1025\cgrid\langnp2057\langfenp1033 \ltrch\fs24\lang2057\langfe1033\cgrid\langnp2057\langfenp1033 {\rtlch \af0 \ltrch 
> Juan in Escanda has a good contact for someone in Spain that I am going to approach for something on the levels of violence against women in the Spanish state.
> \par {\listtext\pard\plain\ltrpar\rtlch\af0\langnp2057 \ltrch\f3\lang2057\langfe1033\langnp2057 \'b7\tab}
> I have a really good piece of testimony about counter actions against the rise of religious fundamentalist violence in the States against women outside abortion clinics and homosexuals.
> \par {\listtext\pard\plain\ltrpar\rtlch\af0\langnp2057 \ltrch\f3\lang2057\langfe1033\langnp2057 \'b7\tab}Possibly, we could move the masculinity and violence article here (and that would maybe make the \'93male\'94 and \'93female\'94
>  gender roles section a bit more balanced.
> \par {\listtext\pard\plain\ltrpar\rtlch\af0\langnp2057 \ltrch\f3\lang2057\langfe1033\langnp2057 \'b7\tab}I would also like to include something here on more definite ideas and projects and things that are going on in the Spanish State dealing 
> with gender based violence.
> \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\sl480\slmult1\widctlpar\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0 {\rtlch \af0 \ltrch 
> \par }{\rtlch \ab\af0 \ltrch \b Section 5: Resources and Calendar}{\rtlch \af0 \ltrch 
> \par Websites, documentaries, groups, initiatives etc etc etc. I have done nothing on this and need help with this.
> \par 
> \par 
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> There is one other thing that I want to include that has nothing at all to do wi
> th gender (apart from on the level that pretty much everything has something to do with gender) that is an evaluation of the alternative, autonomous space at the World Social Forum and lessons to be learned for the future, that I think is really relevant 
> and interesting for both preparations the Med Social Forum and the next ESF.
> \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\sl480\slmult1\widctlpar\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0 {\rtlch \af0 \ltrch 
> \par OK, these are the areas that we need help with:
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> Filling in the gaps in the subject areas\'85. Either existing articles that are relevant, or connections with people who would be good to write them, as well as of course suggestions for new things that aren\rquote 
> t included at the moment but that you think would be good and interesting to include.
> \par {\listtext\pard\plain\ltrpar\rtlch\af0\langnp2057 \ltrch\f3\lang2057\langfe1033\langnp2057 \'b7\tab}Quite a few of these articles have been translated, and I think it is really important to get so
> me very thorough proof-reading done on them. We really need a few different native-castellano speakers to go through them.
> \par {\listtext\pard\plain\ltrpar\rtlch\af0\langnp2057 \ltrch\f3\lang2057\langfe1033\langnp2057 \'b7\tab}Still a few more translations to be done.
> \par {\listtext\pard\plain\ltrpar\rtlch\af0\langnp2057 \ltrch\f3\lang2057\langfe1033\langnp2057 \'b7\tab}The resources and calendar page
> \par {\listtext\pard\plain\ltrpar\rtlch\af0\langnp2057 \ltrch\f3\lang2057\langfe1033\langnp2057 \'b7\tab}More images
> \par {\listtext\pard\plain\ltrpar\rtlch\af0\langnp2057 \ltrch\f3\lang2057\langfe1033\langnp2057 \'b7\tab}People who are up for taking on individual articles to lay them out in a a fresh and funky fashion.
> \par }\pard \ltrpar\ql \li0\ri0\sl480\slmult1\widctlpar\aspalpha\aspnum\faauto\adjustright\rin0\lin0\itap0 {\rtlch \af0 \ltrch 
> \par I have also asked Carlos, the guy who did the transgenic cover is he is interested in doing the one for the gender issue, and he tentatively agreed to do so a few weeks ago, and I am in the process of chasing him up now.
> \par We are sort of behind schedule to where we thought we would be at this stage (a time honoured, Pimiento Verde tradition), but we are looking to have all of the articles together in a more or less ready state in one months time (last week of April).
> \par A few other people have proposed ideas and articles that haven\rquote t been included in this overview as there is still a degree of ambiguity or uncertainty about them (something about sex-workers union, something about women in the hill tribes in Th
> ailand), but they can be worked into the overview when we receive more concrete info about them.
> \par OK, that\rquote s about all that I can think of right now. Please get in touch if you are up for doing anything at all in these areas. Currently, I am mildly out of m
> y depth with this issue (although I feel more inspired and excited when I see the issue outline being a bit more fleshed out like this) so I would be enormously appreciative of other people\rquote 
> s help and input. Please let me know if you want to see any of the full texts of any of these articles.
> \par Besos
> \par Kev 
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