[Pga_europe_process] proposed topics for the factory and workingconditions day

Dimitris Pavlopoulos Dparlopoulos at wanadoo.nl
Wed Jun 16 15:04:58 CEST 2004

 I fully agree with Ivana. Labour and immigration issue is crucial for
the PGA conference. We should invite people from various countries
(Belgium, Italy etc) involved in these issues to contribute. As for a
worker from Greece, we will arrange it. There are various activities
against the Olympics related with construction workers. 
I think it's worth to spend some money to cover the expenses of these
people to Belgrade.
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our collective was in charge for proposals of 2 issues: factory (
labour) and immigration issue. the proposed lines  about immigration
will be send to you tomorrow ( still wait reactions by some people of
universal embassy, brussels).

this is a proposal of the topics on which worked workers of ex-reanult
factory, belgium+ our collective. upon our logic,  the text for the
reader comes later on. those lines are un invitation for the workers
from europe and post-yugoslavia to confirm or not their participation
into the debate that concern them in a first lines.  not their
"representatives"-  topic specialist or activist's theoreticians, who
are of corse all welcome to joint the debates.

ps. it seems that some people thaught that we could organise it without
any money (need  circa  2000- 2500 euros for travel costs of workers and
immigrants who will participate on 2 debates). so pls, give your opinion
as soon as possible.  otherwise we can't continue of working and
organizing an international debate without clear position that we want
it internationally  (means that we have to pay  travel costs for the
people who are normally not following alter-globalist agendas).  and
means that we can't count on the basic goals of our 2 debates ( i will
say  whole conference) :  
post-yougoslave workers blackmailed with the privatisation  meeting
finally those ( europian workers)  who already tasted  privatisation on
their own skin/or that post-yugoslave immigrants who dream all to
emigrate to friendly shengen europe  meet those  who are  violently
excluded from  a  big dream- friendly europe.

Suggestion Topic of the Day Dedicated to the Workers, and / in Politics:
The International People's Global Action Conference, July 2004 - DMB

Participants: workers from the international and local factories of
Belgium, England, Greece, France, Serbia and Montenegro, Slovenia,
Bosnian Federation ,Croatia.

1. Labour conditions, workers' social position in the period of

2.Workers' rights in the process of privatisation; workers buying the
shares - the biggest robbery at the end of the twentieth century or the
new phase of the social justice? Have the existence of the working
personnel's shares been successful in "Renault, vilvoorde, Belgium"? Do
working personnel shares guarantee employment (prevents factory from
shutting-down), or is it the way of putting even more pressure on the
workers in order to make them more industrious for the organization?
Does the idea of having the right to shares incorporate the idea of
organization leaders having the exclusive right to place veto, or is it
the idea of having the right to shares real, uncompromised right? 
Who is really in charge of bringing the decision about factory shutting
down, the shareholder or the leader? Is it wrong not to create unity of
all shareholders in the sense of restructuring (by shares) of all the
participants of the political and labour struggles? 
Workers from the Belgian "Caterpillar" are experiencing the
aforementioned problems at the moment; since 80% of the workers are
foreigners, does that mean that one day, before they had gone "home",
they would sell their shares under low prices? Does worker loses (one
way or the other, namely: always) in his shares? Instead of conclusion:
worker as a shareholder or not?

3.Examples of workers' organizing and struggles, comparative
experiences: Yugoslavia and Western Europe, workers' struggles before
and after! Exchange of experiences and realization of struggle strategy.

4. Are there today trade-unionistes? Trade-union, that is us? Or
trade-union are always the others?

 5. Europe and the workers.
Will the new European countries become the sky of Europe? Will Europe,
i.e. the European patronage in these new countries establish old and
surpassed technologies and inadequate wages, while actually using and
dislocating local reproductive materials,  or will the new country
members become members with equal rights, and their workers people with
equal rights like the others European workers?
   6. The old and the new: does the idea of "new" for the workers
belonging to European suburbs sound "old" for the workers and female
workers of Schengen? 
Is their common aim today really the creation of something revolutionary
and TRULY INNOVATIVE in the sphere of social justice? What would be the
"innovation of the new?"

           7. Self-menagement , yes or no? How we should consider the
fact that many of the working people of today's Europe (and even
further, all the way to the Institute for Self-menagement that was
established According to SFRJ Model in Tokyo) have once seen in the
self-menagement that existed in the SFRJ promise of the new, together
with the attempt of establishing radical, new model of private property
over the production elements? Conclusion: what went wrong? If we could
go back, where would we start, what would be kept? The example of
winning and unsuccessful workers' experiences and memories from the
self-menagement period from SFRJ. 

 8) To be continued (the next round of suggestions made by the workers
from Rakovica)

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