[Pga_europe_process] Respect?

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Please explain in what ways these e-mails were insulting the PGA Asia
process?

WEZ

greetings from west essex/ east atlantic
asim butt 25.04.2004 17:52

hi, i'm writing from London Action Resource Centre.
i'm involved in organising the pga conference in July in Belgrade and
i would like to come over to Dhaka so as to network the conferences.
i find it odd though that there are only 2 webpages for the conference
and presume the others must be in banglashi fonts or something. unfortunately
i donot read or speak bangladeshi so would request that isf u have any
more info in english, please let me know.

we are also discussing proposals for on the topic 'gender' for the so-
called 'european' conference. please see the site at  http://pgaconference.org
and feedback to myself or the Pga_europe_process mailing list. this would
be much apprecited.

thanx and best of luck, i look forward to hearing from you,

xasim
 paki.tv at cyber-rights.net


Date:   Tue, 18 May 2004 01:26:34 -0700


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We tried to contact you several weeks ago, and have oblz just had this
address forwarded by Oliver.

"These two days people will work from their personal experience, their
lives. Gender is inside the skin. Before you are an indigenous, a migrant,

 a Hindu.you are a woman or a man. From the first moment of the birth,

 a person is teach to move, to act, to dream in a concrete way depending
on the values his/her society has chosen for her/him depending on the
sex.
Delegates will analyses from their personal lives, the oppression and
power structures in the patriarchal system.  Expertise trainers with
experience in working with rural realities will facilitate these two
days.
Masculinity will be introduced in only men workshops. It will be raised
the discussion on what is and why is necessary gender perspective in
the organizations, and how to implement it."

This is raising a number of concerns:

The statements appears as if it is part of a PGA statement. In fact it
presents a very controversial view of gender. What is being done to ensure
that people understand that this is not a PGA view?

Why is this gender debate being run by "experts"? Who are they? Who considers
them experts? Do they endorse the view on gender expressed above? How
will other views be dealt with and/or encouraged? Why is this part of
the conference being run by "experts"? Why are women being banned from
some meetings? Was this a decision promoted by the experts?

We are concerned that the PGA process maybe seriously compromised if
these issues are not dealt with.

We have already experienced problems in Europe concerning people trying
to circulate texts on gender and passing them off as PGA texts. There
is an ongoing controversy about banning women from meetings.

We have also come across "experts" working with the London Social Forum
who are promoting behaviourist and psycho-Darwinists viewpoints. This
comes as no suprise to us. However while such manipulations in the WSF
network might be expected, we see these as running counter to the PGA
hallmarks.

Looking forward to hearing from you.

West Essex Zappatista

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